When this has finally played itself out, I think we’ll find that the Obama birth certificate issue has been a brillant con job used to deflect attention from the real issues of Obama’s eligibility to hold the office of POTUS. Whether Obama was born in Hawaii or Kenya, IT DOESN’T MATTER. The same is true of his mother’s citizenship.
As I said yesterday,I don’t blame lawmakers for wanting to dodge reporters when asked about Obama’s eligibility to hold the office of president. There is no reason to duck the questions. Armed with the following information, lawmakers should seek out the MSM and ask why they haven’t done their job.
Is Barack Obama a “natural born citizen” as required under our Constitution?
NO. For a fuller explanation here:
Natural born citizenship status in a nation is granted by the facts of nature of your birth. No law or statute is necessary to grant it. The nations can make any law they wish to make a person a citizen at birth or later. But natural born citizenship can only be conveyed by nature by the facts at birth of the child. If you are born in the country of two citizen parents you are “naturally” … a “natural born citizen” … a citizen too … but a specific kind of citizen who is eligible to be the President and Commander-in-Chief of our military since the child when born has sole allegiance to this country and there is no claim on him/her by a foreign country or power as to their citizenship at birth by that country too. Natural born citizens have unity of citizenship at birth. A natural born citizen is NOT a dual citizen at birth. A natural born citizen has no divided loyalty issues by his birth since the child was born in the country to two citizens of the country
Has Barack Obama ever been eligible to hold office?
NO, but the answer has less to do with his birth certificate than with the status of his citizenship at the time of his birth. The birth certificate has become a ( purposeful) distraction for the larger issues surrounding Obama and the presidency. Obama’s Kenyan father was a British national who passed his citizenship to his son. His mother could not automatically pass her citizenship to Obama because she was underage at the time of his birth. There is a very strong legal argument to be made that Obama was born a British citizen.
FactCheck.org Clarifies Barack’s Citizenship
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
Does it matter if he was born in Hawaii or Kenya?
NO, Hawaii or Kenya, it doesn’t matter! What matters is his citizenship status on August 4, 1961. Whether he was legally born a British citizen or with dual citizenship, either automatically disqualifies him for POTUS. For people who are ignorant of the real issues, it is easy to say he was born in Hawaii and that his mother was a U.S. citizen and to dismiss this as racist, Republican, wingnut propaganda. It doesn’t change the facts.
Has this country ever had a President that is a dual citizen?
NO.
Is Obama a U.S. citizen?
YES … maybe, but not a natural born citizen. Since he and his legal team haven’t released a single record that buttresses his claim, it is hard to know conclusively. It is possible that he is a naturalized citizen? Yes, but his citizenship claim is complicated by the fact that his mother renounced her citizenship when she married her second husband, Lolo Soetoro and moved to Indonesia. Her renunciation of U.S. citizenship impacted on Obama’s citizenship status.
Is seeing the long form of his birth certificate important?
YES, but not necessarily to determine if he was born in the United States. The Constitution requires that a candidate running for office of the President be a natural born citizen…not a naturalized citizen, or native born citizen, or dual citizen. Obama’s own website acknowledges that his citizenship was governed by the British Nationality Act of 1948.
But the MSM keeps saying he’s a citizen and he was born in Hawaii … and what about the birth announcements and the birth certificate that I’ve seen?
IT DOESN’T MATTER! Let me say it again, what matters is Obama’s citizenship status the moment he was born. Everything else is secondary. The story provides plausible cover but it is a very small part of the seminal issues surrounding Obama’s citizenship. Anyone can place an announcement in the newspaper. The act of placing an announcement in a newspaper proves nothing. The “birth certificate” is a phony AND probably inadmissible in a court of law!
Even if Obama were to release the vault copy of his birth certificate it doesn’t change the fact that his citizenship was governed by the British Nationality Act of 1948. He’s a Brit!
“And this is why such prominent conservative Senators who are also lawyers as Orren Hatch and Lindsay Graham say that a Natural Born Citizen is simply one who was born in the USA:
Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC), said:
“Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.” (December 11, 2008 letter to constituent)
Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT), said:
“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)
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And according to the constitution…they are wrong. Law makers are not automatically right just because they are lawyers.
Alright , let’s have this clear; first Hawaii ‘produces’ one,…and now,…Kenya ‘produces’ another one. Ok..!!..??
If I was a comedian I would say that the guy born simultaneously in two places on planet….slim chance , isn’t it?
PROOF OF FABRICATION ____ THE OBAMA GANG CHICAGO-TYPE CORRUPTED,ANTI-CONSTITUTIONAL,ANTI-AMERICAN, TERRORIST FRIENDLY-ORIENTED ADMISTRATION IS VIRTUALLY ALL-MIGHTY….NOW THAT THEY ARE ‘IN POWER’….perhaps for them everything is possible ….’to produce’!.____
Just remember somethings ‘forgoten’ by many; Biden falsified documents at university studies, Gaithner is a tax cheater, Barney Frank, Reid, Cox, Soros, Pelosi,..and others weeds are masters in the economy destructive plot,…Obama himself, A PRODUCT FROM THE CHICAGO CORRUPTED POLITICAL ATMOSPHERE …and there are others things too…..anyone can go into details and further research.____
So to sumize quickly,…all is CORRUPTION and DISHONESTY since ‘moment one’….no sensible mind would take anything as good or legitimate from this administration that is systematically destroying our country.
No-no-no, boys and girls , I will not swallow nothing from this people, to me and many many others, their credibility is = ZERO !___
ABOUT MR OBAMA,…’president’?,…or PROPAGANDIST-IN-CHIEF,…or….PREACHER-IN-CHIEF;___
Anyay, Obama, ‘THE FRONT-MAN’ ….here about him is very short – anyone interseted can go into details:___
IN A SHORT NOTE:___ And JUST FOR THE RECORDS, SHOULD OBAMA – ( THE FRONT-MAN ) – IS TO BE FOUND NOT LIGITMATE AMERICAN ( AS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IS PROVEN TO BE AS SUCH – NEVER CLEAR ON THAT /SUPRESSED BY THE DEMOCRATS MACHINERY) then, insofar, he is not to be president by constitutional rights – AND SO NOTHING THAT CAME FROM AND THROUGH HIM IS TO BE CONSIDER LEGAL.___
A SMALL REMARK;___Since everything is corrupted and twisted from ‘moment one’ – starting with the CHICAGO CORRUPTED POLITICAL ATMOSPHERE FROM WHERE OBAMA COMES FROM,…and ending or culminating with the past FRAUDULENT ELECTION tainted with ACORN and other agencies of questionable integrity;….nobody,…I mean, NOBODY AT ALL, should be surprised if the so called ‘documentation’ for Obama’s birth certificate or ‘proof’ for it , is ALSO MORE FRAUD AND/OR ILLEGAL PRACTICES.___
Remember DISHONESTY AND DECEPTION IS THE TRADEMARK OF THIS ANTI-CONSTITUTIONAL, ANTI-AMERICAN CURRENT ADMINISTRATION.___
And how is your day so far ?
Daniel Cabrera,
Merrillville,Indiana____
PS – The tv tabloids (NBC, CNN, MSNBC) , and tabloid publications such as , THE NEW YORK TIMES, THE HUFFINGTON POST, LA TIMES , etc,… along with what is left of the quasi-hypoitized brainless “utra-obamanized ” cool aid drinkers people, will not take this one lightly.
Frank:
if you did really deep, you will see that Obama is also his own grandpa. Think it through.
***Ignore smrstrauss***
He’s an Obama-bot (O-bot).
See here: http://www.reboottherepublic.com/blog/currentevents/i-just-kod-an-obama-bot-o-bot-on-the-birth-certificate-issue/
The time lines, places, actions, motives, when analyzed, support, and are consistent with, what is the answer to the Obama birth puzzle:
Obama’s grandmother is his mother and his mother is his sister.
Think about it. Review all the facts and claims.
Jack:
I’ve thought about that possibility, so have others.
Madness on display.
This would be funny if it wasn’t so crazy.
Who says that a Natural Born Citizen requires two citizen parents and birth in the country?
The constitution does not define Natural Born, but Natural Born was commonly used in the laws of the US Colonies before the Revolution, and it meant that someone became a citizen of the colony and a subject of Britain merely by being born in the colony. This was regardless of the number of parents who were subjects or citizens.
This is what Natural Born refers to. It refers to the laws of citizenship at the time. It does not refer to the theories of Vattel, a Swiss philosopher, who was considered an expert in international law, but not an expert on citizenship or government. Vattel, for example, after defining what a Native citizen was (the term Natural Born did not appear in a translation of Vattel until 100 years after the Constitution), then did not recommend that the leader of a nation should be a Natural Born Citizen or a Native-Born Citizen, or a citizen at all. He cited many kings and emperors who came from other countries than the ones that they ruled, and he never said that this was a bad thing.
There is no evidence that the writers of the Constitution followed Vattel. They did not follow him on his recommendation that every country should establish a state religion and force everyone to join it.
So where does Native Born come from? From the law, and not from Vattel.
What did the law say? This is what Blackstone said (and he was very popular reading among the writers of the Constitution, who were mainly lawyers): “The children of aliens, born here in England, are, generally speaking, natural-born subjects and entitled to all the privileges of such. In which the constitution of France differs from ours; for there, by their jus albinatus, if a child be born of foreign parents, it is alien.” http://www.lonang.com/exlibris/blackstone/
(And the minor exceptions referred to in “generally speaking” refers to the children of foreign diplomats.) To be clear, Blackstone says that Natural Born subjects (and in the USA, Natural Born Citizens) are those that are born in the country regardless of the number of citizen parents.
And this is why such prominent conservative Senators who are also lawyers as Orren Hatch and Lindsay Graham say that a Natural Born Citizen is simply one who was born in the USA:
Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC), said:
“Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.” (December 11, 2008 letter to constituent)
Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT), said:
“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)